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7arXiv · cs.LG·22d ago·source ↗

Shannon Scaling Law: A Noisy-Channel Framework for LLM Capacity and Non-Monotonic Training Phenomena

Researchers propose the Shannon Scaling Law, a theoretical framework that models LLM training as information transmission over a noisy channel using the Shannon-Hartley theorem. By mapping model parameters to channel bandwidth and training tokens to signal power, the framework introduces a fundamental SNR-based capacity limit that explains non-monotonic phenomena like catastrophic overtraining and quantization-induced degradation that classical power-law scaling laws cannot capture. Validated on Pythia and OLMo2 under Gaussian noise, quantization, and fine-tuning perturbations, the law achieves strong R² scores and successfully extrapolates from 6.9B to 12B parameter models trained on up to 307B tokens. The framework outperforms both classical and perturbation-aware scaling laws, predicting U-shaped performance degradation when SNR is insufficient.

6arXiv · cs.CL·11d ago·source ↗

Phantom specialization in circuit discovery: structural differences don't imply distinct mechanisms

A new arXiv preprint challenges a core assumption in mechanistic interpretability: that structurally different circuits discovered for the same task imply distinct computational mechanisms. Using Literal Sequence Copying across token-frequency bands in five Pythia models (70M–1.4B), the authors extract 75 circuits and show that structurally distinct circuits implement the same computation, with band-specific edges transferring broadly and a shared core recovering ≥99% of circuit performance. The paper introduces the term 'phantom specialization' for this pattern and argues that standard source-level evaluation inflates apparent faithfulness, while edge-level evaluation and cross-condition transfer tests are needed to detect the many-to-one mapping from structure to function.

5arXiv · cs.LG·1mo ago·source ↗

Layer Equivalence Is Not a Property of Layers Alone: How You Test Redundancy Changes What You Find

This paper distinguishes two protocols for measuring transformer layer redundancy—replacement (can one layer substitute for another in place?) and interchange (do two layers approximately commute when swapped?)—and shows they can disagree substantially. Experiments on Pythia (410M, 1.4B) and 8B-scale models (Qwen3-8B, Llama-3.1-8B) reveal that the protocol gap grows during training and can change which layers appear safe to prune by several-fold. Notably, Qwen3-8B shows interchange-guided removal is far safer than replacement-guided at the same layer budgets, while Llama-3.1-8B ties the two protocols despite lower interchange KL. The authors recommend scoring both swap-KL metrics before any layer removal or merging, requiring only unlabeled forward passes.